Saturday, June 14, 2008

What do Hillary Clinton People Want?

I can't speak for others. I know what I want however. I want FAIR REFLECTION in the caucus states. The delegates that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton receive from the caucus states should actually mirror their popularity in the caucus contests. I actually don't mind if the delegate count slightly favors the candidate that "worked harder" in those states, but I don't want to see delegate counts that are so far off the probable popular vote, (fair reflection) it becomes laughable, which is what we have now.

If it take conducting actual primaries in the caucus states to gain FAIR REFLECTION, than I am for that. I would estimate the cost to do this at about 90% less than what our Military spends in one day on FUEL. If our military reduced their fuel usage by 10% for just one day, the government could easily pay for the caucus contest elections to be redone as primaries.

I also want an admission from Barack Obama that taking his name off of the Michigan Ballot at the last possible moment (in October, 2007), was done in collusion with John Edwards and Bob Richardson so they would gain a tactical advantage in Iowa over Hillary Clinton. If you want proof that ageism and sexism were at play, and racism was not, there is no way that Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, and Bill Richardson would have ever combined forces against Barack Obama in Iowa, but the three younger men did combine forces against a female.

Because of this collusion in Iowa, Barack Obama should not expect delegates in any noticeable amount from Michigan. Carl Levin has already stated that Michigan had a legitimate, desperate reason for moving up their primary. Michigan was not the only state to move up their primary date, making their "punishment" questionable. North Carolina was awarded 28 delegates for NOT moving up their primary date. Was Michigan offered anything for not moving up their primary date?

The reason given for punishing Florida and Michigan states was that next time will be worse if there is no punishment this time. I can design a system that levels the playing field AND gives states a method for moving up their date if a state feels in desperate need of being heard. So the solution is not punishment now, but one which FIRST offers a more logical, representative method for all states to follow.

I find it fascinating that the party that wants more education and less jails opts for a punishment first mode when it comes time to solve their own internal problems. I call that, hypocrisy.

Near the end of the campaign, not all uncommitted delegates and super delegates were voting for whom they wanted. Instead they were voting for whom they were being told by the media was the presumptive, presumptive winner. This is a form of voter fraud. The first vote by a delegate or superdelegate should be for whom they are supporting, not whom they are being told is already the presumptive presumptive nominee.

There are some super delegates and uncommitted delegates who simply did not vote for Hillary Clinton because they thought she could not win. This creates a false delegate count. The is time later, if one chooses, to vote for whom is going to win rather than whom one is supporting. Forcing delegates into voting for who was winning rather than who they wanted to win prior to Denver was voter manipulation.

I also want an admission from MSNBC, Huffington Post, and George Soros that they influenced peddled the media to make sure Barack Obama won. Without all of this happening, there can be no real democratic winner, and no real harmony among democrats.


Loki said...

I voted Hilary Clinton, and only support Hilary Clinton, No matter what Hilary Does suspend her campaign concede her campaign. No matter what Hilary does she could even support Obama and campaign for Obama I will never Vote for Barack Obama, I do think America is ready for a black president, just not Barack Obama,,, The way The Democratic party handle this election with the Corporate Media propaganda the whole election, Turned this election upside down,, Obama could of ran over someone,, like Haley Berry, No one would care and still vote,, Obama..
There several million Voter right now like my self, will not ever vote for Barack Obama, Many like my self will be Voting for McCain, my reason is simple,, the Obama voter came on CNN & MSNBC and said if obama does not win the primary, Obama supporter will vote for McCain, Democratic party did not do anything to the obama camp to stop ,, why is obama party splitting the party in half, Now pelosi and many other are blaming Hilary and kept on with the propaganda Corporate Media, Obama Said on the new so many time,, does not Matter, if your Democrat or Republican,, you want the right person for the right Job,, He is so right,,when He said that we wanted Hilary,, Well Congrats to Obama his supporter got him to the primary,,,but He will never win the election,, for President, I will not stop with my blogging,, who is the best man for the job between Barack & McCain,, will vote for McCain he will be way better than Barack Obama, I can put up for McCain for 4 years and Hilary Can run again, Pelosi and the rest of the democrat party,, days are number at this point, For pushing Hilary out and ruining her Career, Even now During Clinton Exit speech,, Democratic party Told Hilary if she does not back there little puppet Barack Obama they will ruin her career,, In my opinion They all ready Ruined Hilary Clinton Career, Right Now I am going listen to one thing Barack Obama said, and that is, like I said, it does not matter if your Democrat or republican who is the right person for the job,,,, Hillary supporter need to stick together, Vote for McCain or just not vote for we need the right person,,, Hilary is up on stage right now saying what pelosi and the democratic party are telling her what to do,, or Economy is down and the way the propaganda Media is,, we are turning into a 3rd world country,, by rigging the election thru the media, Hilary Supporter who really want Hilary to be president Need to vote for McCain or just not Vote for Barack Obama, let McCain win,, there nothing more he can do as president, Congress will not let him it Congress who controls everything,, not the president, Pelosi and the a lot of the democratic party ruined Hilary Career, If all Hilary Voter, stick together, than We can restore Hilary Career and make her President, in 4 years. if you vote for Obama we have to wait maybe 8 years or 4 years and republican will be office, if Obama wins the presidency he will only be 4 year term,,, I say give all your supporter not to the democratic party, but to Hilary Clinton.. democratic party needs all of them need to leave office and get fresh people in there, who can unite the party not keep it separated and force unity, to who they want not who the voter want,, Hilary would of won this election, DNC screwed her with Florida and Michigan if those vote were counted at the beginning she would of won this race along time ago..and for the sexist Media, Like CNN & MSNBC… will continue to not report the new but Make it up as they see fit, All Hilary supporter need to unit together.. and stick together,, Margaret Thatcher was prime Minister 30 years ago,, but American Men and New Bias, is keeping woman down for personal gain, Like Keith Oberman, & Chris Mathews Who are the biggest Sexist on this MSNBC stations

Newt said...

"If you want proof that ageism and sexism were at play... the three younger men did combine against a female."

Um, just because three male candidates made one choice and Hillary made a different choice doesn't mean their decisions were sexist or ageist. There was plenty of sexism going on in the primary, but the decisions to remove their names from the Michigan ballot while Hillary kept hers on was not sexism.

A.M. said...

Um, the three male amigos literally plotted their strategy together and then took their name off the ballot on the final afternoon that they could actually do this manuever.

If Hillary, Edwards and Richardson had worked against Barack Obama, the cry of racism would have been heard far and wide, and I would have agreed with that as well.

Anonymous said...

Wow! Y'all are totally delusional ...

Lordlokipv said...

Well there half the democratic party who did not vote for barack Obama who are also Delusional,

glennmcgahee said...

There also is no acknowlegement whatsoever of why we in Florida had our primary date moved. We had to go along with the change because it was attached to our bill to get rid of the horrible E-Voting machines. After the 2006 election when one district lost 83,000 votes resulting in an unpopular republican winning a seat in the House of Representatives, this became our priority. The Republican majority in our Florida Legislature attached the new primary date to this bill. The DNC ignores this at their peril. If the voting machine problem goes unchallenged across the country, it doesn't matter who the nominee is. How soon everybody forgets.

Alessandro Machi said...

You are right Glenn.